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Nakumatt or Tuskys,who`s bigger?
kenito
#1 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:54:00 AM
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I was wondering nd just wanted to get guy`s views on who they think is running the retail industry at the moment.Tuskys seem to be making some really HUGE strides and is Uchumi officially out of the picture?

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Wendz
#2 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:17:00 AM
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they both are in different market segments if you look deep. So i would say,they are both leaders in their different market segments.

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chi20
#3 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:23:00 AM
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incidentally the two are owned by the same group of tycoons,operating in different names,management and markets<br


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Kamaa
#4 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:52:00 AM
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from grapevine....

i understand that the 'owner' of Tuskys is an african who used to be a driver of the Nakumatt's trucks...

he was fixed there by the Nakumatt guy...

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tusker8
#5 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:41:00 AM
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They are not owned by the same people. However,Nakumatt has a 24% shareholding in Tuskys. The original owner of Tuskys,a Mr. Kimani,used to work for Nakumatt when it was in Nakuru. His sons are now running the show but he is still actively involved.
And yes,they are leader in their different market segements and they do have a silent 'gentlemens agreement' not to encroach on eithers turf.

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akowally
#6 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:51:00 AM
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I kinda feel like Nakumatt is big but Tuskys is growing.....if you don't get the drift,remember the saying that goes...if you are not growing,you are dying


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jaribu
#7 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:01:00 PM
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nakumatt has invested heavily in eastern africa while tuskys is still learning the ropes. of course nakumatt has most super stores which are also larger in size,so is it's capital base and employees. however,i believe tuskys is growing faster......


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skodhe
#8 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:20:00 PM
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By the way,how do they recruit their shop attendants. I have never seen or heard any advertisement

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Kamaa
#9 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:43:00 PM
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and is Tuskys related to Naivas...?

i think the owners of these two superstores hails from the same village....

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akowally
#10 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:58:00 PM
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@ Skodhe,I think they recruit by word of mouth or applications that people generally always send to every company today,advertisement or not. Most places see it unnecessary to advertise for such 'small' jobs so rely on word of mouth and those applications now that everyone is talking about cutting costs

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skodhe
#11 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:05:00 PM
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@ Akowally,you know when Tuskys langata road was about to be opened,i waited for them to advertise but didnt see anything. I wanted my sister to apply

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mukiha
#12 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:18:00 PM
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Kenyans will always come up with a thread [pun intended] about any successful local business.

'Thuo stole money from KBS to start Citi Hoppa'

...then when that is no longer fashionable...

'Michuki owns Citi Hoppa; Thuo is just a figure head'

'Mwau Owns Nakumatt'

'Nakumatt owns Tuskys'

'Tuskys owns Naivas'

'Moi & Biwott own Bidco; the name comes from Biwott-Daniel Company'

etc

etc

Can you see the fallacy?

So let's clear the air:

The owners of Nakumatt are from Nakuru town.

The owners of Tuskys are from Rongai (just outside Nakuru). The mzee of this family has never been an employee of Nakumatt nor it's predecessor,Nakuru Mattreses.

The owners of Naivas are from Naivasha...used to trade under the name Naivasha Self-Selection Stores and for many decades it was the only supermarket in the town....just like Duka Moja of Thika.....but that't a different story.

Tuskys started out as groceries shop [duka] in Rongai in the 1970s. In early 1990s,the owner of the whole sale shop from where they used to get supplies decided to migrate out of the country.

He sold his wholesale shop to the Tuskys family. They converted it into a retail shop going by the name Magic Superstore. At around the same time,the owners of Nakuru Mattresses sold off their Nakuru business and moved to Nairobi to open the first Nakumatt along Uhuru highway [Nakumatt Mega]

The new owners of Nakuru Matresses were a family from Naivasha and they renamed it Naivasha Mattresses.

At around this time,Uchumi openned its first branch in Nakuru and distabilised dukawallas in the town. Magic Superstores was harriedly converted into a self-service supermarket and soo enough,it was giving Uchumi and Gillanis [the other major supermarket in town] a run for their money.

few years down,Magic also moved to Nairobi...this is where the money is,you know [60% of our GDP]. Their first shop was at the Tusker bus stage along Ronald Ngala street.

This is where the picked up the name Tusker to become 'Tusker Magic'. Later they incorporated the name Tusker Mattresses to take advantage of the popularity of the 'Mattresses' tag that had become very well known in their home town of Nakuru.

The rest is history,isn't it?

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Burning Spear
#13 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:27:00 PM
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@Blood stream,

Well put but I want to add here that the major shareholder or the owner (&gt;50+1)of Tuskys is called Mr.Gatei and he is indeed a blood brother to the Naivas supermarket owner.

Disclaimer : This is my opinion and not a recommendation.
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mukiha
#14 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:28:00 PM
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I think their practice the true Kenyan spirit of recruiting from home.....

I visited their railways branch in Mombasa and I saw quite a number of attendants from Rongai [Nakuru]....

But Nakumatt is no different,a big chunk of their employees,especially supervisors and branch managers are from Nakuru

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Kamaa
#15 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:48:00 PM
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@ mukiha

that is a superb history...

& i concur....

all those prior brand names are very clear in my mind...

and may be to shed some more light....

the owner of the tuskys and naivas are related like @ b-spear said...

they hailed from Mang'u in Rongai....

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jaggernaut
#16 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:21:00 PM
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Seems like there is a strong relationship between Nakuru and retailing
akowally
#17 Posted : Friday, September 25, 2009 5:46:00 AM
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Mukiha,great research. Skodhe,one thing she could have done is just apply and pray they call her. I love this country but in some places,getting a job has involves much more than your skills,papers and experience ...

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Lyanne
#18 Posted : Friday, September 25, 2009 7:05:00 AM
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@ Jaggernut

I thought so too. But on closer inspection,no town has more hawkers than Nakuru,

except offcourse Nairobi. Its said that 75% of residents in Naks are hawkers.


The Hedonist
Hon.member
#19 Posted : Friday, September 25, 2009 7:17:00 AM
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@mukiha,

we Hon. Members know the truth about everything. Especially when we want to turn non-supporters into supporters.

Your research is 70% true,let me correct a few.
- Tusker's family dad once worked at nakumatt's family home.
- tusker family comprise 4 brothers,3 of which are deeply involved in the business
- the patriach passed on couple of years ago,leaving elder son as chair.
- Elder son (somebody mentioned him here) once worked for nakuru mattress,not as a driver though
- the first outlet was mfangano street,where eastleigh mattresses stand today.
- the business has been built through impossible frugality,and family commitment.
- they recruit through network of trusted friends/ family.
- they still live very simple lives.
- elder son's son is running own clothing stores,and been groomed to slip into the dad shoes.

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mukiha
#20 Posted : Friday, September 25, 2009 7:21:00 AM
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When I moved to the town in early 1990s,there were only two supermarkets - Gilani's and another one whose name I can't remember [they eventually closed down...their main customers were wazungu from nearby ranches].

At the time,Nakuru Mattresses had not converted into a fully-fledged supermarket; only selling beds,beddings,furniture and kitchen items.

Then something broke loose: in a short space of ten years,every other shop in town had been converted into a supermarket....nearly all carrying the 'mattresses' tag in their name.

There was even one called 'Uchumi Mattresses'.....trying to kill two birds with one stone.....Even Stage Matt started from Nakuru at the main bus stage under the name Stage Mattresses

I moved out in 2001; perhaps any Skerian who still lives there can update us.....

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